Chuck Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Okay, first, we're using emoticons, not the whole ocx. Emoticons are copyrighted by MS, so they are illegal to use. However, I doubt it, MS cares and I don't care either. Okay, first, we're using emoticons, not the whole ocx. We're not basing our entire chat service off of an OCX that another corporation built, and claiming fame for. You can use the ocx, but I doubt it it would help. There are couple of networks that are using msn ocx: "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME": 5,000+ cc users on average. Phriek: 750+ cc users on average. Sparkpea: 250+ cc users on average. An then there are many other networks that use msn ocx, but they won't even reach 100 cc users. In short, using msn doesn't necessarily mean that the chat network will be popular. MSN ocx is a good software - secure, almost bug free, and easy to use; however, it doesn't guarantee large user base. "i have my own chat" Whats the link? i have my own chat Whats the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_rat_1 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 (edited) 60s under peers on msn was taken to buzzerd for one reason-numbers of chatters-we made the move the day msn annoiced they was closing chat-befor techgear got into idea of right/wrong-i will ask has techgear got away from it's roots of supporting chatters-wish i was smart enough to say the onx is right/wrong time will tell this-when i see nother chat server has more numbers we may move there. I see things on "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" i don't like and things i do like. Edited December 4, 2006 by Old_rat_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLia Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I was going to post about sth but as it was like 3 pages before..i forgot lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-Fusion Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Alright Chuck, how many of those chatters came because they think MSN supported "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME"? Just do a survey of that and see what the responses are. And, if MSN copyrights such small things as emoticons, do you not think they would copyright a main chat component, such as the OCX? It sounds to me like you guys are just defending your use of an MS product to better your chat, and trying to de-enhance those that have put time into their server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
err0r Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 gee we make topics for Buzz.. we offer Buzz downloads.. then we try to inform the public of the chances they take yet we aren't supporting chatters? could you please explain that accusation. also the use of the ocx arguement has been around for quite awhile. Even before Buzz was NSM. Just so you know. I agree with Chuck in that by using the msn chat ocx doesn't mean you will become a popular chat site. But I do say if Buzz hadn't used it they wouldn't be. They don't seem to be in any real hurry to switch to something else, but i don't really blame them. They fear what will happen when they move away from MSN chat ocx. It will be interesting for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryton Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Pretty strong words from err0r and chuck,I think this would be the end of debate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAH00 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 (edited) i already spoken to alot of users and they are fine with an ocx change, but we must wait and see what the future will hold! they might just stay to see what graphics i come up with next lmso! Edited December 4, 2006 by YAH00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-Fusion Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 If alot of users were ok with an ocx change, they wouldnt be relying on the msn ocx to keep themselves afloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
err0r Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 if i were them i probably wouldn't change it either.. i would take the chance that microsoft doesn't care. right now they have a pretty good user base using software that has been created and tested by others so that's less of a headache for them. Put the flash chat on the backburner just in case and "if" MS says something then switch. I'm not saying that's the right thing to do. I'm just saying if i built my network around the msn chat ocx that's what i would do. Of course i wouldn't have done that but then again i'm not very good at the business side of the net. I just do what i do for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molson™ Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Yeah look at the chats that actucally use their own ocx, they dont get very many users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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