Guest X-Fusion Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Waits for a more subtle, calm chat replacement. Perhaps Smurffen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinning_male Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 I have a new S• M• U• R• F• Y forum. Please post any smurf news or comments you have at the forum. The forum is located here Smurfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanne Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 They didnt advertise themselves? Refers the uninformed to the MSN broadcast message topic. And, aslong as it provides entertainment, I'm gonna carry it on, whether it gives promotion or not. Contrary to popular belief, bad advertising costs you more in supporters than it brings in. Why do you think businesses tell you that if you have 'something good to say, tell everyone, and if you have something bad to say, come and tell us' "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" is losing paid rooms now even, because some people just recently found out that "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" is a clone, and lost respect for Buzzens choices and actions. Maybe "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" could have held onto some of respect of those people by being totally open and honest--but as it stands, those people come and tell others that they were gulliable. No one likes to feel like they were tricked, fooled, or taken advantage of, and if "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" has any hope of holding onto the respect of it's chatters now that the sense urgency over msn closing down has worn off--they will only acheive that with open honesty about the whole cloning situation. Also, yahoo...somewhere you wrote about msn putting up the ocx again, so they musn't care if the clones use them... That is a pretty big assumption, and I would encourage you to write to msn directly to confirm or deny it. I am also going to contact them, and ask specifically about what you said, seeing as how it's been a couple of weeks now since msn has sent me any emails about "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME", and the other clones still using the msn.ocx illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinning_male Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) ere we go agony aunt deanne is on the case was wondering where Deanne had gone hence the 10+ replies Deanne contacts MSN re: Dear Sirs & Madams , I am jealous I mean I am shocked to see MSN have yet not decided to rid the OCX which is stressing me out so much that I am left with no hair to comb please, please tell me you will not give the likes of "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME" the freedom to be clones. I am the only clown with freedom of speech.. In God we trust to guide us all Edited December 3, 2006 by grinning_male Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLia Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Pardon me male ..DUH!..nvm..I just answered my own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagman Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) Dear MSN, Could you please allow me to use your chat ocx on my chat site? I figure since your not using it any more you shouldnt mind. Consider it charity for all man kind, sort of like donating to the homeless without a tax write off. And for what it's worth, Shagman did have sth to do with Buzz getting popular WAY BEFORE he started posting here about it ( so the 'your posts when arguing advertise "THE CHAT THAT WE DARE NOT SPEAK IT'S NAME"' says nothing to me). Believe it or not, some of us Buzz ( then NSM) chatters did like him and appreciated his work as staff. Fact his bitterness towards Buzz ( for reasons unknown to me personally) shows in every single of his posts probably makes him NOW a not much liked poster/chatter. But still, as an internet user, I do not recall him 'shouting his mouth at me'. I dont mind its not like I share beers with net folk. Edited December 3, 2006 by Shagman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAH00 Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 deanne msn are not who you should contact but microsoft themselves! I hope this helps you clarify the information you have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanne Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 deanne msn are not who you should contact but microsoft themselves! I hope this helps you clarify the information you have! Yahoo, have you contacted them personally, and if so, what did they say? or is that just another attempt to muddy the issue, and get things off track? msn help has taken the time to wait for official feedback and direction from the legal department, and thus accurately provides people with the most recent and official stance on this issue. Legal Microsoft Service Agreement Last Updated: July 2006 THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING MICROSOFT! 1. What the Contract Covers. This is a contract between you and the Microsoft company referenced in section 24. Sometimes Microsoft is referred to as “we,” “us” or “our”. This contract applies to any Windows Live or MSN software, products or services, including updates, that you use while this contract is in force. 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grinning_male Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Can you please point out the vital points from it all Deanna as I fall a sleep after reading any legal documents first 2 lines so Bullet point the Interesting points.. Some people really do have time to read a lot.. I will wish you all a merry merry xmas and a happy ocx cloned free year in advance in case Microsoft decide to publicly humiliate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAH00 Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 deanne as much as i would like to answer you direct i cannot say what microsoft and other parties have discussed... And it is not my area to be honest i rather stick to my design work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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