av0ider

Besides the fact that you basically look like a complete ass, I have one question for you. How can you see you're joining rooms when you can't get on the site at all? Think quick.

...Except for those of us that have the TinyURL preview cookie set, and are aware of where the link leads.

My suggestion is to delete the whole thing. :]

This may sound a little stupid, but, why are you using a variable in the event?

I see what you did there.

I never said you did know me. I don't care if you know me or not. Enough people know that code is mine for it to make no difference whether or not you had not seen it. I haven't seen anyone back you up yet, dude. -shrugs- Either way, your witty retort presents a logical fallacy - If you were the writer of the code in question, you'd know whether or not I'd ripped it, since it would be your code. The fact that you doubt the providence of the code has just betrayed the fact that you definitely didn't write it yourself. If you'd written yourself, you'd know who owns it.

What's that supposed to mean? I'm shocked and appalled. ;p

I like to know what people think of me.

I do it just to spite you, err0r. <3

Dippy, I'd like to explain a few simple things to you: 1) First and foremost, I'm not Travis. I'm not like Travis, and Travis in no way influences my views or my postings. 2) You know you ripped, even if you think you can escape taking blame. That's enough for me. You've got to be feeling the guilt. 3) About 50% of what you posted is directly copied and pasted. That's not 5 lines, it's a rather large amount more. 4) You were one of the people in a discussion in a channel where I posted what I posted here. You don't have to admit to that, either. You remember it, so do I. That's all that matters. Basically, those four points sum up my argument against you ripping me. You could have asked, and felt less guilty about using it. You could have credited, and felt less guilty about using it. In both of those cases, I would have let you use all the code you liked with no qualms. As it is, you've simply made yourself look foolish, and I assume you feel less proud of yourself for having done this. Be a man. Admit it, and I'll never bother you about it again.

Man, now I want to know what he said. ;(

To be honest, I try not to bother doing anything whenever I can get away with not bothering.

To be honest, I don't need approval - I'd prefer constructive criticism. I also understand you agreeing with Tewl, and there's no real argument with that, beyond what I've already mentioned. I just hope it helps some people out.

No, the compactness of the code reflects the compactness of the code. Less than 1k of information is less than 2k of information, no matter how you set it out. Regardless, I pointed out that the smaller version was more difficult to use, and if you notice, I didn't set it out that way for display - I even said "if you dare". FWIW, it actually would make the code slower, if you stripped it. mIRC actually interprets well-bracketed lines faster than it interprets lines with none, or with poorly conceived bracketing. I think, though, that you missed the fact that Travis and I are just poking fun at each other. ..and I'm sad you didn't say anything about my code. ;(

Aw, uncle Dan. <3 ;p

My compact one is 29 lines. Sucka. ;p

I don't accuse willy nilly, but there is no way in the world that this isn't ripping - he's blatantly copied & pasted large sections of code. If people rip elegantly, and make the code their own, I don't mind. Copy & pasting is a no-no, especially when the person in question doesn't understand the code. (As evidenced by the fact that he's asking for help with it.)

Josh, my post count does not reflect my experience with mIRC... And I know, I code like a girl. ;p

I understand that it's 'unnecessary' in the state it's in, but the point is not to use it as is, but to further modify and add to what there is. To that point, I left it without any personalisation, in order for the end user to do with what they wish.

Tewl's is bloaty. ...And that makes yours the fat woman who the airline requires to buy two tickets because her ass won't fit in the space for one.

Also, no smartass comments about how you can just /server and it's quicker. (h8u@dan)

Hallo, hallo. I've never really "released" anything, and I'm not really "releasing" anything now. I'm posting some of my work because I thought it might be useful for some people. It's a bare-bones socket connection for Buzzen chat, that does nothing more than strip out style tags. It's aimed at the 'scripter' market - people who want a connection they can mod. It has NO flood protections, CTCP support, Version information, themes, raws, gate loggers, or tools of any kind. There is only one dialog. A passport dialog. It's under 100 lines, sans comments. It's fast, lean, and doesn't hold you back from doing whatever the shit you want. There's no other connection for Buzzen that fits in to this category, which is the only reason I'm posting this one. There's another smaller version, that's under 30 lines, and 1k in size. Use that one if you dare. Onwards and upwards. _______________________________________________________________________________ ;Min-i-mal-ism ;Barebones socket relay for BCN. ;~av0ider_ _______________________________________________________________________________ ;--Events. on *:start:go on *:socklisten:n.i:{ sockaccept n.l | sockclose n.i | sockopen n.s 24.215.5.3 6667 } on *:sockread:n.s:{ while ($sock(n.s).rq) { var %r | sockread %r if ($sockbr = 0) { halt } tokenize 32 $regsubex(%r,/(\[style (ff:.+?;|(bg)?co:.+?;|[ubi];)*?\]|\[\/style\])/ig,$null) if ($2 = WHISPER) { l $1 PRIVMSG $4- } l $1- } } on *:sockread:n.l:{ while ($sock(n.l).rq) { var %r | sockread %r | tokenize 32 %r if ($sockbr = 0) { halt } if ($1 = USER) { w n.s loginh %u %p } if ($1 = PRIVMSG) && ($left($2,1) != $chr(37)) { w n.s WHISPER $comchan($2,1) $2 $3- } if ($1 = JOIN) && ($numtok($2,44) > 1) { w n.s JOIN $numtok($1,44) } if ($sock(n.s)) { w n.s $1- } } } ;_______________________________________________________________________________ ;Aliases. ;-w for Wait/Write alias w { if ($sock($1).status != active) { .timer -m 1 10 w $1- | halt } sockwrite -n $1- | halt } ;-l for Local-sockwrite. alias l { sockwrite -n n.l $1- | halt } ;-Go for going! alias go { if ($sock(n.*)) { sockclose n.* } if ((!%p) || (!%u)) { echo -d * Username and/or password not set. .disconnect pport halt } socklisten n.i .server localhost $sock(n.i).port } _______________________________________________________________________________ ;One and only dialog. alias pport { dialog -m tblpassport tblpassport } dialog tblPassport { title "Passport Information [/pport]" option dbu toolbar size -1 -1 120 40 text "Address:", 1, 5 5 28 8, right text "Password:", 2, 5 16 28 8, right edit "", 3, 33 4 85 10 edit "", 4, 33 15 85 10, pass button "Okay", 5, 4 26 114 11, flat } on *:dialog:tblpassport:sclick:5: { if (%u != $did(3)) && ($did(3)) set %u $did(3) if (%p != $md5($did(4))) && ($did(4)) set %p $md5($did(4)) go dialog -x $dname } ;_______________________________________________________________________________ ;EOF ;~av0ider_

Well. I see there's another [kind gentleman] here trying to rip my shit. Golly gosh, it's not even worth ripping If you want to use my connection, at least ask. But thanks, Dippy, for the compliment of the rip. Anyone want proof of my ripping accusation, feel free to look at the original connection, at the following: Simple Dodgy Connection. [Edited so it doesn't offend err0r's delicate sensibilities. ;p]

I'm not saying that Travis did or didn't rip, and frankly the point of all this text is that I don't care, but here's my views on the subject anyway. Point one, you've both made a hop alias. Interesting. I haven't seen the code for Moschino's, so I haven't compared the code itself, but from my memory, hop aliases have been written in to most BCN connection scripts since BCNv1, since the server only allowed one /join per sockopen, and so it was needed. Also, the channel window closing and opening can be adjusted in the IRC options tab of mIRC itself, so the fact that it happens is hardly original. And you've both written an alias to change CTCPREPLY to the way that Buzzen's unique IRCWX or whatever protocol works. Again, I thought this was the whole point of connection scripts: Writing scripts to allow mIRC to handle a non-standard IRCD like Buzzen's in a natural fashion. ... and finally the sockmark bullshit. So you both sockmark the word "create" ... Seriously, dude, sockmark is a fairly standard way to hold socket-specific data in connections. Putting a five letter word in to a standard place is really not what consitutes ripping. That's like saying that any multiple-chansock connection for BCNv2 that came after yours were ripping your concept of using one socket per chan. Like I said, I haven't seen any of the script in Moschino, so I'm basing my judgement purely on the fact that you haven't posted two sets of code for comparison, so I guess it cannot be so similar that you'd need to, which leads me to the thought that the premise of your argument is that the concept of these ideas - rewriting two basic aliases so that 3rd party scripts can handle IRCWX easily - is 'ripped' from your connection. You weren't the first to rewrite these aliases. Travis won't be the last. Also, I personally hate Moschino. Huge script, which annoys the shit out of me. I'd never use it, but that doesn't mean that it's bad, as such, just that it's not for me. Hate it or not, though, there are elements which I like. Elements which to me, are like diamonds in the rough. Just because I can say I hate an entire script, does not mean there are things I would not want to borrow. So I understand if Travis /did/ borrow concepts from Moschino. I also understand you banning him from your forums. But I really don't give a shit about either. You've written a script in mIRC and distributed it to a huge number of people. It's an open source scripting language by nature, and you expected people not to perhaps borrow ideas? You didn't licence your code. You didn't protect it in any way. To my mind, whether or not it is ripped is a moot point. I've been ripped many, MANY times. Do I go around crying about it? No. Basically, both of you just need to gettheflower over it, and if there was a third party, I'd recommend that everyone use that, just to avoid Travis' and your hubris.