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  1. Hard work? Seriously? Any idiot can build a chat network based off someone elses ocx. Hell, if i felt like wasteing a day or two I could build one off MSN's ocx.

     

    I've learned that buzzen is on the verge of developing their own ocx. Until then, all the bashing, putdown and cynicism are just flogging a dead horse.

  2. i"m sorry YAHOO on your point i have to disagree. First, simply reading the terms of use shows us what's legal and what isn't. If you break a law in the U.S. just because the cops haven't caught you yet doesn't mean what you did was legal. That's not a valid point. Second Microsoft does not have to do anything to private users that have the ocx installed on their computer. They are not violating any copyright issue by just having the ocx installed. As for the possibility of microsoft doing anything to buzzen. That is possible.. It's probably unlikely but it is possible. They have gone after sites that have domain names that are similar to MSN which i think is less of an issue than using the ocx. I would assume MSN is going to remove the download link for the ocx once the site closes. When they do this how are new users to buzzen going to get the ocx? Are they planning on releasing the ocx themselves? I think the questions we are throwing out there are very legitimate. People just want assurance that if they move to buzzen that they are going to have a reliable place to chat. I just don't see how you can tell your users that you aren't going anywhere when you use an ocx that you don't own. I myself hope Microsoft leaves buzzen alone and it is able to continue to grow but I think as long as buzzen uses that ocx they will always have to look over their shoulder and hope microsoft "chooses" not to go after buzzen. If they don't it isn't because they don't have the legal recourse to do so. It's because they just don't care. But hey MSN has shown us how much they don't care over and over. I just think ppl that talk about the use of the ocx not being the best thing have a perfectly understandable point. Doesn't mean they think buzzen is bad. Just questioning what will happen to it's users if microsoft does decide to go after them about their ocx.. do they have a backup plan? do their users just get left out in the cold? I don't see anything wrong with their users or potential users asking those questions.

     

    P.S. I think it would help answer alot of these questions if buzzen would simply acknowledge the possibility that they may no longer be able to support chat using the MSN ocx. Something very similar to :

     

    Dear valued Buzzen users. With the close of MSN chat pending we understand your concerns about the future of buzzen chat. Let us assure you that we plan to be around for a very long time. If we have to discontinue use of the MSN ocx we do have a plan in place to ensure our chatters will continue to have a home with Buzzen. There are alot of unknowns with the closing of MSN chat and how it will affect us but we promise to do our best to ensure you always have a place to chat.

     

    very short and to the point.. users just want some assurances. I know you can't give absolute assurance but just letting them know you are prepared to keep your users chatting would go a long way. Just saying hey msn probably won't bother us about using the ocx and we will be here forever using it just don't seem very re-assuring to me i guess.

     

    Nice rationale, Error! :pizza:

     

    In my opinion, Buzzen is a good place to be. It sure brings back the fond familiarity and nice feelings when chatting in their rooms, especially for MSN groupies. The future of Buzzen adapting MSN's ocx is uncertain and nobody can surmise the outcome when Microsoft shuts their chat service once and for all. I can only wish Buzzen a steady growth for years to come.

  3. MSN will either conitue hosting the ocx for archive legacy reasons or they will take it down and if any website hosts it themselfs they might get a C&D notice or somthing maybe.

     

    MSN should enforce their ocx as intended within EULA.

     

    Maybe it's a good idea to charge fee on those who host it. I bet there would be a drop in the use of ocx if that happened.

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