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Thanks guys, I had no idea. so do you know the correct raw for creating a room? At the moment I am creating it and then changing all the properties after join. This new system takes a little getting used to. Thanks for all your help so far. Btw. I read up on PICS when we was on m$n, it refers to the rating a web page is given to filter content, but I dont think it was ever used.

Thanks Travis, I had no idea they were locked, when you say 'check it out' do you mean there is a list or a resource for all the IRC for the new buzzen? This will be my last off-topic post, I promise, lol.

My appologies, it does give you the information on subsequent joins. At least, it does now, I'm am sure it didn't before, lol. Thanks again. Can I ask about props now? lol. When i try to set prop onjoin and prop topic I get 'You have no permissions'.

Thanks !! That's exactly what I wanted. Travis is right though, you don't get profile information after the initial join, which is a pain. I'm sure the solution is out there somewhere, lol.

Okay, I got the gates, now I have another issue, the new server doesnt give profile information with the names, not like the old system did (PX, FX, MY, etc, etc). Does anyone have any idea how to get this information? I am guessing you need to ask for it. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks.

Look before leaping huh? I have looked, you think I post remarks that just pop into my head? All I said was the new server is bugged, which it is, and I prefer the old ocx, which I do. I think buzzen made an error in moving the majority of its rooms onto the new server without first sorting it out, and I'm still pondering the wisdom of changing the layout at all, but not my call. Keep up the buttkissing tho, you might get a staff position, lol.

LOL! Growth where exactly? Might be an untapped market.

I like the way you can get all user gates on the channel in 1 call, however getting gender information and profile status is still a mystery to me. I'm sure all will become clear over time. Either way, if we still want to chat on buzzen, we'll have to get used to it, lol.

Well, having not read this thread for a while I was surprised to find so many replies, none of the latter ones are on topic, either. Still, as long as we all get our say. I find it interesting that the people defending buzzen are the ones contracted to work for them, but thats only my observation, thier own forums are the same. Personally I think buzzen made an error in moving away from the msn ocx, it worked well and everybody was familiar with it, and it wouldn't bother me that it wasn't my own ocx, I guess some people are just sensitive. I've never had issues with chat server providers using the ocx, and I can't really see the argument of other people that do have a problem with it. I think buzzen would be better off putting time, effort and money into increasing stability of it's network, improving connections and reducing lag. And while we are the subject, I think the new chat they have sucks, it has little to no security and I'm guessing the naughty people of chat are already taking advantage of that. Buzzen is a victim of it's own success, the more it grows the worse it seems to become, I remember Espressobar having 40 chatters was considered a busy time, but there were no major issues.

Just an update, I still cant auth on the new server, I am still waiting for it to change over too, maybe they realised it's rubbish and have abandoned it (if only). I tried sending the md5 thing as an actual string of the hex values too, I tried this with and without the leading zero on values less than 16, still nothing. I even tried putting my nick instead of the email. Maybe it will all work when it goes on the main server. I must be doing something wrong as I know that scripts are connecting. Do any scripts have a server trace thing that shows the raw data? That would be handy to have a look at. I am resisting the tempation so far to download mirc, I really don't want to learn a new language just yet. Anyway, thanks for your help so far, I'll keep playing, lol.

Hi, I did all that, the md5 routine returns the same byte sequence as that website, however, I am sending the bytes, not the hex string that the website gives you. I still get the erroneous nickname thing. I went to the irc server and logged in, I got a message about nick Guest_Guest being in use, so I changed my nickname there (it was appearing as a jumble for some reason). After that I could join fine. Next I tried to connect again with the bot, still get the erroneous nickname. I get this returned before I do the USER nic nic nic thing. I'm at a loss to explain it. I did find something while poking around, on the webpage source of the new chat theres a variable that reads like this.. fvTicket=ao7YC9wpeQKGY7Y3%2fa2R ..now i'm not sure what that actually is but I cannot find anything else on the page to do with user info. The old chat used to have your cookie in the renderchat call. Now if you could auth just using that ticket, that would be alot easier, lol. Anyway, I'll keep trying.

Thanks Tewl for givin me the raws, I'm gettin further now (I think, lol). And yes, I did try to find out the auth methods for flashirc, but all I could get was a mirc connection script, and that's all dutch to me. The flashirc website doesn't give any data on this either (I got that from helpdesk). besides, if we discuss it all here other people can find most of the information in one thread, so it's all good. lol I just tried to auth and i get this... I sent: AUTHTYPE ircwx1 I got back: FlashIrcServer.1 NOTICE AUTH :*** IRCwx 1.x auth type set. I sent: LOGINH <my email> <utf8 string of my password md5 hashed> I got back: FlashIrcServer.1 NOTICE AUTH :*** authentication failed: bad password or erroneous nickname... I've tried ascii and utf8 encoding.

Today I'm playing about with encyption, and it raises a few more questions. I'm assuming that the new system still uses a linefeed/carraige return pair to delimit server data, if this is the case what's stopping the algorithm method from returning those characters? Wouldn't this confuse the whole login process? I've not encountered that problem, I've not connected yet, just thought I'd throw it out there.

Didn't I just send all that in the first 2 lines? Do I need to send it again?

What is the USER line about? lol